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Can Anyone Identify This English Surname - Please Help If You Can :)

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By: Ceri Shaw
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Need ideas to assist a member on AmeriCymru with genealogical research. The first name is Hellen but what is the surname? Can anyone suggest a likely solution?

View the document in its entirety here:- http://americymru.net/photo/ann-shawtranmer-death

Paul Durden
01/23/11 12:13:06AM @paul-durden:
smelling....?
Ceri Shaw
01/19/11 04:03:28AM @ceri-shaw:
Just added a link to the original document in the post above. Sorry.....should have done that earlier.
John Berry
01/19/11 03:54:59AM @john-berry:

It looks like "Gaings" to me. There are 4 people with this last name in the USA, in TN, MO, CA and TX. There are a pile of Gaings in N.Y. from 1815, also a few in NC, MO, Indiana. "Gangs" is also a possibility, and there was a Helen Gangs in Alameda CA in 1920. Could also be "Garogs", for which there is an entry (no page number showing) in "The pedigree of William Griffith, John Griffith and Griffith Grffiths (sons of Griffith, John, of the parish of Llanddewi Brefi, in the County of Cardigan...."( http://www.archive.org/stream/pedigreewilliam00glengoog/pedigreewilliam00glengoog_djvu.txt )

 (snip)IV. KYDWGAN VYCHAN, ist son of Kydwgan Vawr,  (Dwnn I, 37, &c.) called "of Carrog" or Garog, married 
 Ellen,  or Elin, who appears to have been the heiress of a great part of  the parish of Llanddeiniol, or, as it 
 was anciently called, Carrog,  or Garc^, from a small stream of that name which flows through all of his 
 remaining lands. He had issue : Thomas Griffith. Griffith Griffith,  d. s. p. David Griffith. Richard Griffith, 
 John Griffith, William Griffith,  Ahce, Gwenllian, Elen and Angharad.(end snip) (This is in the 14th century: it might just
  have given rise to a surname Garogs. Perhaps: but I can't find anyone of that surname on Google). Narings
  is also a remote possibility, and the name exists.

 Good luck

John Templeton
01/19/11 12:44:19AM @john-templeton:
Swansea Jack- Actually, the widowed reffers to Ann Tranmer not Thomas Shaw. Thanks.
John Templeton
01/19/11 12:40:33AM @john-templeton:
I agree with Laura. I believe it starts with an N. Swansea- I dont believe its Shaw with a grave stone. It doesnt match the Shaw in Thomas Shaw and as far as widower, he probably just put that because he had no other information. Ann was 92 at time of death, I'm sure Thomas and Hellen were long gone.
John Templeton
01/18/11 03:17:59AM @john-templeton:
WOW. Thanks for all the help so far. Could the first letter be a W. It looks similar to the W on the certificate where it state race is White.
Ceri Shaw
01/17/11 07:16:37PM @ceri-shaw:
Gwych....diolch for posting Gaynor
Gaynor Madoc Leonard
01/17/11 07:13:52PM @gaynor-madoc-leonard:
Given that the exact birth date is known, someone at the EYFHS may well be able to find both the baptism and the parents' marriage. I've been lucky with other FHS (in Carmarthen, Cumbria and Scotland) so it's certainly worth a try.
Ceri Shaw
01/17/11 07:08:00PM @ceri-shaw:
Can that be done without knowing the name for sure?
Gaynor Madoc Leonard
01/17/11 07:02:24PM @gaynor-madoc-leonard:
I think the best bet is to contact East Yorkshire Family History: www.eyfhs.co.uk . They may be able to find the original baptism information.