Yes, I understand. Your point about the word "collier" is true; it's not really used so much here now either but at least we know what she's talking about! As for people who left the homeland for the USA, I imagine it was because they were looking for work, just as my Irish great great grandparents left Co. Cork to escape starvation and find work in England. My grandmother's siblings presumably went to the USA for a chance to have a better life.
Politicians claiming to be Welsh
@gaynor-madoc-leonard
09/01/12 11:03:35AM
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@madoc-roberts
09/01/12 12:24:00AM
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Looks like they didn't take your sense of humour after all. (Never used these things before)
@madoc-roberts
09/01/12 12:05:28AM
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or at least their Welsh root vegetables
@madoc-roberts
08/31/12 11:46:34PM
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Hello Jack
thankfully I don't take your "warnings" seriously.
@madoc-roberts
08/31/12 11:27:41PM
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I have heard that Americans don't understand British humour. I had no idea that they removed it upon entry into the USA.
@harold-powell
08/31/12 11:24:08PM
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Gaynor, I wasn't refering to your post as a rant but to Madoc Roberts' reply to your post. After reading it again, it still strikes me as offensive.
The author of the article is speaking from a UK perspective. Almost all Americans know about the Irishand Ireland but few know about Wales and the Welsh. Hence, how can there be a hidden political advantage to Ann Romney? What's more, if she had intended to gain political advantage, she would not have used the word "collier"..she would have used the term "coal miner" because most Americans do not know what the word collier means unless they've have or had a family member working in the pit.
@gaynor-madoc-leonard
08/31/12 11:09:19PM
302 posts
No wonder the Welsh lady looks as though she's going to throw up! I don't recall my mother ever using lard in her Welsh cakes, it was always Sir Gar butter. No pig fat in my Welsh cakes, diolch yn fawr. Ych a fi.
@gaynor-madoc-leonard
08/31/12 11:05:05PM
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It's not my rant, or indeed anyone's. The article is simply stating that it's a new phenomenon for American politicians to claim Welsh rather than Irish ancestry. It's the journalist who is asking "Is Wales the new Ireland?", not me. I couldn't care less.
@harold-powell
08/31/12 11:04:00PM
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My wife uses butter.But formy grandparents during the Great Depression, butter was often unavailable except in rural areas. Lard was a substitute and eventually margarine.
@harold-powell
08/31/12 10:56:49PM
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I fail to understand your rant? If you think that she might gain some political advantage (in America) from acknowledging her Welsh grandfather or Welsh father, then you are sorely misinformed.
@gaynor-madoc-leonard
08/31/12 10:27:33PM
302 posts
I'm more concerned with Ann Romney making her Welsh cakes with lard! I don't know anyone who does that. Butter, woman, butter!
As someone with a vast number of cousins in the USA (especially in Utah), I'm not qualified to answer your question!
@madoc-roberts
08/31/12 09:31:59PM
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Is there anyway that those of us whose ancestors didn't run away when the going got tough can disown these plastic sentimentalists?
@gaynor-madoc-leonard
08/31/12 06:30:51PM
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