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Irish Gaelic connections for new Cymraeg learner?

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By: Fionnchú
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I have a curious question, as a longtime adult learner of Irish and a very new one for Cymraeg. I figure that the distant ties more in the South Walian origins of its dialect to Irish colonization in early medieval times may have left "ghosts" in recent Welsh, cognates closer than Northern varieties at least once in a while. Anywhere that I could find an accessible (I am a scholar but no linguist) discussion of this? A medievalist expert in early Welsh I asked discouraged any hope of a clear comparison between such subsequently divergent languages, but here goes anyway.Related to this, I wonder if anyone's learned Welsh and then Irish, or vice versa, and has advice for transferring concepts or mind-maps from the one Celtic tongue to the other? Beginning Welsh, I keep making mental notes against my Gaeilge to help (or hinder) my comprehension of similar roots or patterns. I fully realize at least 1500 years or so has passed from the last full-on invasion of Cymru by their Hibernian cousins, but still, as a newbie with a comparative pan-Celtic urge to keep aligning ire with Cymru, I thought I'd ask.

Ymwelydd anfynych
01/18/09 05:10:37AM @ymwelydd-anfynych:
T mise ag foghlaim Gaeilge, ach c go bhfuil an Bhreatnais liofa agam, n cheapaim go bhfuil s chomh sidteach sin. Nl na teanganna chomh cosil lena chle, faraor.Ar wahn i helpu rhywun i beidio g ofni'r treigladau, ac i helpu gyda rhyw llond llaw o eiriau a dyrnaid o enghreifftiau cystrawennol, mae'n debyg gen i fod yr ieithoedd yn rhy wahanol i hynny fod yn ddefnyddiol iawn i'r dysgwr.Perhaps the best thing about learning Irish and then learning Welsh would be the fact that Welsh is so much _easier_ than Irish: if you've done Irish, Welsh will be a breeze!