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Comment by mona everett on January 27, 2010 at 5:29pm

More about Baltimore--read the Baltimore County and City bits for info on copper and oysters and Canton!

Comment by mona everett on January 27, 2010 at 5:19pm

Lisa--

Oyster info from Baltimore:

http://americanhistory.si.edu/onthewater/exhibition/3_5.html

Comment by Lisa Russell on January 27, 2010 at 9:03am

BTW thanks so much for posting this picture and being such a great help!

Comment by Lisa Russell on January 27, 2010 at 9:02am

Hi Mona,
Thats what I figured! Ok, can you write me at russell.lisam@yahoo.com, then I can send you his contact info.
Are there other welsh industries that might have been in baltimore as well?

Lisa

Comment by mona everett on January 27, 2010 at 8:06am

PS--there were a lot of oyster people around Swansea, I know, but I really don't know much about them in Baltimore--but it stands to reason they would have done the same type of work once they arrived in the US.

Mona

Comment by mona everett on January 27, 2010 at 8:05am

Please do send Miles my info--thanks!

Moa

Comment by Lisa Russell on January 27, 2010 at 7:50am

Hi Mona, can I email you his information directly . He is very interestred in learning more himself and I have told him all about you. He has a photograph of his grandfather and uncle with the other men who worked at the factory. Early 1900s. There were numerous photos taken of baltimore industries. We found many of them through the Maryland Historical society and the Baltimore Museum of Industry. BTW our family also worked in the Oyster industry. Can I assume that this was also someplace welsh immigrants would have worked?


to answer an earlier question. One of my hartlove ancestors was supposgly from wales. We know that all of the hartloves were born in MAryland based on our research. But my grandmotehr remember that her mother told her she had a brother who was living in wales. THis made me wonder if perhaps fora time one of the hartloves had gone to Wales to learn the trade. Her brother Louis eventually became a tinsmith and moved to New Jersy.

The names I am exploring as Welsh are Simms, and Clarke, possibly bauer( although I believe this is german) But there is a listing of bauer as Bowers.

You have been so helpful! Thank you and good luck talking with Miles

Lisa

Comment by mona everett on January 26, 2010 at 9:11pm

Lisa--Yes, PLEASE! I would love to email this man! Ebery time I go to Baltimore, the first thing I do is go see if these are still standing....Thanks, so much!

Mona

Comment by Lisa Russell on January 26, 2010 at 12:54pm

HiMona

I have been contacted by someone who is ad escendent of a Welsh Immigrant who was a coppersmelter. He knows tehse houses well and told me that they are going to be torn down. Sad he said as far as he knew the maryland historical society was not going to protect them. He did tell me a great story though! The last owner in this block had a pub. When the husband died the wife layed him out on the bar counter for his wake.... she refused to sell back then . When she finally had to let go, they simply closed the doors . Evidently the bar is exaclty as it was when she left.


I told him about this website and you. If you are intersted in getting in touch with him let me know

Lisa

Comment by mona everett on December 28, 2009 at 6:24pm

Hello Lisa!

No worries--my gggrandmother's name was Amy! :)

This is a good site: http://baltimorecity.gov/neighborhoods/southeast/canton.html

I also recommend From Pig Iron to Cotton Duck by John W. McGrain (1985, Paperback, Illustrated)
Publisher: Baltimore County Public Library
Publication Date: 1985-01-01
Series: A Baltimore County Heritage Publication
ISBN-10: 0937076015
ISBN-13: 9780937076019

and

King Copper
South Wales and the Copper Trade, 1584-1895
Ronald Rees
hardback pp viii179 March 2000 ISBN 0-7083-1588-7
paperback ISBN 0-7083-1589-5

‘ . . . the story of King Copper is well documented in a new book of that name by Ronald Rees. The story he tells has remarkable parallels with the modern tale of the British nuclear industry: first a military motive, then official lies, followed by a cry that criticism jeopardises jobs and wealth.’ (BBC History Magazine) read more here

:http://www.uwp.co.uk/book_desc/1589.html

and the Baltimore, MD, pages in this book (which mention my Davis and Reese (Davies and Rees) families):

Hanes Cymry America: The history of the Welsh in America by RD Thomas, trans. by Phillips Davies:

http://ohio.llgc.org.uk/syllwr/arddangos_mets.php?xmlfile=HCA00001&...

This book has been revised and is now available with corrections to the orignal translation and an index from the Great Plains Welsh Heritage Centre:

http://www.welshheritage.org/latest_news.htm

--for a LOT less than the orignal.

Another gem is: A Guide to the Industrial Archaeology of the
Swansea Region

Yes, I was able to trace some of my relatives to the Llanelli Copper Works and others, to the Cnap Coch Works near Swansea/Skewen. As you will learn from Hanes Cymry, they were recruited to come to the states by my ancestor, David W. Davies, so I imagine, they were mainly from places he had family and friends working. Once in Baltimore, the families stayed close together, moving together when one smelter shut down for awhile, then moving back.

HTH.

What are the names of your ancestors that lived in Welsh Row? And/or might have worked in the copper industry?

Mona

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